First bad experience with!

Hello and Assalamo Alaikum,

As mentioned in my last post about having bad experience with for which I promised to share how it actually was a sour experience for me.

So far I have initiated transactions in U.S Dollars and no buyer had any objection to date. For the recent sale of, I did the same way but for the first time the buyer made the payment in Euros. As buyer made the payment and both of us (buyer and seller) were in regular touch with Escrow team to find out when the payment will reach to them and it took 20 (correction – 15 days) for them to inform us that we have received the payment but since it’s in Euros, the funds will be sent back.

Both buyer and seller requested them to convert the funds or at least mention somewhere clearly while during the transaction but they didn’t do this favor for us even though they took too long just to share this update and gave me the link to one of their FAQ –

Where they have stated “ regrets that we are unable to modify the currency type once it is selected.” and “ is unable to offer currency conversion”. If they will keep such attitude towards their clients, get ready to lose business.

Since Brandon Abbey sold and left the company, after that I have read many people complaining about their service.

Rather than creating confusion for both parties and losing time and money in such cases, better they keep it simple by having just one currency for transactions in USD. If not, they should either clearly mention during the transaction or have some flexibility by providing currency conversion service.

There will be some who will say that buyer should have read the FAQ before sending the funds but that doesn’t happen in every case and anyone while facing any difficult situation goes to read FAQ and not simply to learn A-Z of that particular website.

My regular readers must have seen that I had kept logo for around 3 years and I was listed as one of their partners but since the management changed, they removed my website logo from their partner’s list without any prior notification which shows how good and efficient people are working at I asked and no concrete reason was provided and informed me that we shall put up your website logo again once we launch our new design. I’m sure that’s not going to happen early but I still kept their banner for some more months but couple of weeks back removed it. They have took off the logos of many other companies and surely won’t have informed them like to me.

Doesn’t mean I will stop using their service completely right now but I shall start looking out for alternatives and one of that I see is Payoneer Escrow.

Care to share your thoughts? Anyone had such incident in past or would like to share some other bad experiences with

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43 Responses to “First bad experience with!”

  1. Jide says:

    This just too bad IMO. Freelancer is not good at handling anything outside freelancing sites.

  2. Seems true.
    One of the biggest mistake they did was not to utilize the services of Brandon Abbey.

  3. Trent says:

    Payoneer has reached out to me, I have been having issue with escrow, support is slow, time is money, we can’t wait 3 days for a response. The chat feature is useless, the person on chat has no powers.

    We are looking at payoneer very closely now.

    90% of our escrow transactions, the buyer has never used escrow before, so we bring them alot of new customers, and get nothing but bad service for it.

    • Thanks for sharing your experience and giving feedback which will help others to understand and decide accordingly.

      I fully agree with you about their support being slow these days and chat person is there for no reason. He has no powers like you said. Not sure why this feature even exists when that team is unable to do anything worthy for their clients.

  4. Andrea Paladini says:

    20 days just to inform you? damn, that’s a joke … disservice at its best and a great way to lose more customers … 🙂
    That said, we normally agree with the buyer (or with buyer and seller if we are acting as a broker) on what is the deal’s currency, in order to avoid such issues.
    When we start a transaction in a currency, buyer knows he/she has to pay (wire) in that same currency, however it doesn’t make such a difference because they will always be charged in the currency their bank account is denominated (their bank makes the currency conversion if needed).
    I mean, if buyer account is denominated in EUR, they can make a wire in USD as well, at that point their bank will convert and charge them in EUR, since their account is in EUR.

  5. Andrea Paladini says:

    “Since Brandon Abbey sold and left the company”
    Brandon was not the owner of, and actually, as far as I know, he was ousted, he didn’t leave voluntarily …
    That said, he’s a nice guy and a great asset for the entire industry. 🙂

    • Trent says:

      Brandon being with them that long, and them only being sold for $5M, I would assume he would have some shares in the company.

    • Yes, right. They kept me saying the funds have not arrived whereas it was received by them but in a different currency. They kept apologizing for the delay in updating me but that excuse was not acceptable. Good for me the buyer was kind enough to cooperate very well and made another payment to and Escrow did send back the funds to buyer very late for which he was frustrated.

      Good point Andrea. I will make sure to be more careful next time using their service.

      Yes, he was ousted but I wanted to use soft words for this great man Brandon.

      • Andrea Paladini says:

        I completely agree Brandon is a great guy, I’ve used the term “ousted” to underline the fact he was forced to leave by the Freelancer guys.
        That was a big mistake, Brandon knows better how to properly manage an escrow business. 🙂

  6. Their support has become very slow. I am waiting since Friday for a transaction to be cancelled and have not heard back.
    Anything over 1 day is unacceptable for an escrow company. 20 days is simply ridiculous.

    But what you asked can’t be done with I think that does this but they have different regulations.
    Even if they did make the conversion the funds would end up less that the domain price. So the buyer would need to send another wire transfer anyway. This was a buyer mistake or most probably his/her bank’s mistake.

    BTW Brandon Abbey was not the owner.

    • Correct me if I’m wrong, I think they have increased the time limit of transaction to be cancelled.

      Yes, they took too long than I would have even imagined!

      I agree at certain degree the mistake was from buyer’s end or the buyer’s bank but if companies don’t improve their services, some other will take over a chunk of your clients and keep getting away and that seems to be happening soon with the beginning of many escrow companies and especially Payoneer coming into play.

      • I am not sure about transaction time limit either.
        But this is a transaction that the buyer said that he doesn’t have the money to pay yet he selected to pay by wire transfer. I don’t know how they treat this.

        I don’t know if any US escrow service will be able to make currency conversions.

        • Once the payment method is selected, I think the transaction remains active for 15 days but if you want to cancel it quickly, you may ask at live chat (if they have enough power) to cancel or email to support. I have asked Escrow team long time back about what they usually do when they see few cancelled transactions and many completed one’s at the same time which they said it’s fine and not a problem with them.

          To stand out from your competitors, one must offer this service and even deduct service charges for it.

  7. ajay says:

    Their service is becoming worse day by day.I am using only when DomainNameSales broker’s a sale.I hope DNS adds other escrow services or start one on their own:)

    • Thanks Ajay for your feedback and I really like your suggestion about DNS starting their own escrow service which would be great addition to their parking platform, market and then escrow service.

  8. paul says:

    Company is on the downturn….in my opinion.

    They were tops at one time.

    Now….very very slow support. Why does it take days to respond to emails?

    Usually, companies wish to put best foot forward, not backwards.

    Thank God for competition.

  9. Trent says:

    Funny story, I had an issue with my transaction, and by the time support responded, the inspection period had lapsed, and the closing statements had already been processed. Some help, we can’t wait 3-4 days for a response, and the response did not even address the issue, comical at best.

    • LOL. That’s funny and at the same time frustrating! I have found their phone support takes load of time to connect with one of their representative and in past it took just couple of minutes to get in talk with someone…

  10. Ram says:

    It’s time to move

  11. Richard says:

    The support has slowed down in response time, also I had a buyer not want to use them because of reviews? I ended up selling that domain through godaddy

    • Thanks for sharing your experience which isn’t good and sad to see you were forced to use GoDaddy in order to sell your domain rather than was-an-all time favorite service for all domainers.

  12. Logan says:

    Of course, in the past, if there was a blog post like this one about, Brandon Abbey would have already made a comment in this section and kept us up-to-date on what is going on inside and when would resolve any issues. Where is the current leader of and why isn’t he commenting here?

    • Absolutely right Logan!
      Brandon have always been in touch through email communications and commenting on blogs.
      Current team is somewhere lost. Googled it and came up with 0 search result 😉

  13. Lifa Nati says:

    So Freelancer now owns the Warrior forum and Escrow? Two very big platforms that have been serving their committed clientele very well. The warrior forum is now home to scam artists, junk and spammers showing that the content is no longer properly moderated. It has lost it’s authority in the internet marketing industry. I don’t know what kind of deals these were but clearly the vision has been lost somewhere with the transitions proving a mess to say the least. One wonders if this an act of greed or it’s just business growth?

    • Thanks for your feedback Lifa 🙂
      As far as I know, they own warrior forum as well and I have never used that platform but just looking at the Alexa Traffic Rank, I see a huge decline which isn’t a good sign.

  14. Josh says:

    The decline of has made it a challenge to get deals done. I’m hoping Payoneer steps in to fill the void soon.

    How did you end up accepting payment in this case? I have two transactions pending where the buyers want to pay with currencies other than USD. One with Euros and the other with GBP.

    • As we heard recently that Payoneer raises $180 millions for it’s global payments and it seems we are going to have a good competition.

      Buyer made the payment in EUR at first for the USD initiated transaction but later made another payment but in USD which was eventually accepted and the funds he sent in EUR were sent back to him.

  15. Hello AbdulBasit,

    I remember a similar situation when I was running When acting as a neutral third party it is important to have specific instructions from your clients. What we did was request authorization from the buyer to convert the Euros to US Dollars with their agreement that they were responsible to make up the difference before the transaction was approved. It took a few extra days, a few extra steps on our end and the buyer had to make two deposits, but it worked out fine. Anyone interested in taking a look at please send me a note –

    All the best,


  16. Dimas Uno says:

    Interesting for what @Ajay said above. I hope DNS will starting their own escrow service too, that will make a lot easier for buyer like in Sedo Marketplace but the fee should be more cheaper than Sedo BIN/Make offer 😀

  17. Hi everyone,

    I just received a call from Jackson Elsegood (General Manager at and it was nice talking to him.

    First, I would like to apologize for counting the days wrong. So instead of 20, it was 15 days and I had corrected in my post.

    Secondly, we had a detailed talk about issues on logo removal to issues related to this particular transaction (

    I really like the attitude of Jackson of taking up this issue and hope there won’t be any mess like this in future as things need to move on quickly especially at any escrow company.

  18. lovekittehs says:

    Noticed a big SECURITY breach on old transactions.
    I always select to be seen by my company name. [I.E. My company name is shown,not my personalname]
    I work in a sensitive line of work and my day job would not be happy about my side business.
    Now I see that ALL my finished transactions are showing my full name.
    I confirmed this via other sellers I know who use
    Heads up to anyone who cares about their privacy online.

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